msladygracie

Dear MsLadygracie, You've stated that you believe Sister White to be inspired, more than a Prophetess to the Advent movement. If you do, then lets step back a moment and take a broader look at this "Trinity" issue: #1 TWO GROUPS would be developed WITHIN the Adventist movement, one wise virgin group and one foolish virgin group. Ellen White states that Laodicean state represents the foolish virgin state of the church at the end of time which we are NOW living. Adventists today are pretty sure "Laodicean" represents the General Conference of Seventh Day Adventist churches today:

“Today we HESITATE to claim we’re the remnant; but as for Laodicea, that’s us! Us alone!...No other Christian group vies with us for the dubious privilege of being identified with it….claiming exclusive rights to Laodicea is not politically incorrect. So, unchallenged, we’ve become anchored in the view that Seventh-day Adventists are the sole group envisioned in the apocalyptic concept of that term.” Adventist Review, August 28, 2008, p 5.

So, they are pretty sure of WHO they are today. Laodicean means LUKEWARM.

"If the church of God becomes lukewarm [LAODICEAN/FOOLISH VIRGIN/STONY GROUND HEARERS], it does not stand in favour with God any more than do the churches that are represented as having fallen and become the habitation of devils and the hold of every foul spirit and the cage of every unclean and hateful bird (Babylon/Synagogue of Satan)." Letter 35, 1898, p. 6-7.

The Advent movement became Laodicean in 1845. God in His GREAT mercy did not leave them until 1888, where Ellen White says they closed and bolted the door against the Spirit of Christ and said come again some other time when it is more convenient for us. Then again in 1903, Ellen White had hoped for a change in this attitude, but she said that there was not change and it was the greatest sorrow of her life and that because of the leaders who rejected her warnings not to setup a hierarchical system of worship like the Roman Catholics with one person at the head of the General Conference of Seventh Day Adventists - MANY SOULS WOULD BE LOST.

She states we are to have "no popes among us." (Letter 212, September 23, 1903, Spalding and Magan Collection, p 324-325).

1894 Warning: The General Conference leadership are "pursuing a similar course to that of the Roman Catholics" (Manuscript Releases, vol 9, p 179--Letter 53, 1894).

"For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed" Isaiah 9:16.

"I saw that our message was not to the shepherds who have led the flock astray, but to the poor hungry, scattered sheep" PT March 1, 1850, par. 3.

My point being that the church is STILL "Laodicean" as of 2008 in the Adventist Review, August 28, 2008, p 5. They have had many years to stop being Laodicean. Here's what Ellen White says Laodicean means "1899: “The Laodicean message applies to ALL who PROFESS to keep the law of God, and yet are not doers of it” Ellen White, RH October 17, 1899, par. 3.

So when Adventists today claim to be LAODICEAN they are CLAIMING to PROFESS to keep the law of God and yet are NOT doers of it!

So, way back in 1892, the LOUD CRY message got underway. The LOUD CRY message and the LATTER RAIN message is to GO BACK to the firm foundation, the pillars, the landmarks of the early 1830-1894 Protestant Pioneers! To go back and believe like the OLD ADVENTIST PIONEERS from 1830-1894 did because MANY HAVE LOST THEIR BEARINGS TODAY! 

"All the messages given from 1840-1844 (old SDA pioneer doctrines aka non-marks of the beast doctrines) are to be made forcible now, for there are MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR BEARINGS. The messages are to go to all the [501c3 SDA] churches" Ellen White, 21MR 437.1.

Ellen White warns: “Let the aged men who were pioneers in our work speak plainly, and let those who are DEAD SPEAK ALSO, by the REPRINTING OF THEIR ARTICLES in our periodicals”—Ellen White, Manuscript 62, 1905, cited in “The Integrity of the Sanctuary Message.”

Ellen White warns: “We are to REPEAT THE WORDS of the pioneers in our work, who knew what it cost to search for the truth as for hidden treasure, and who labored to lay the FOUNDATION of our work. The word given me is, Let that which these men have written in the past be reproduced”—Ellen White, Review and Herald, May 25, 1905.

"The truths that we received in 1841, '42, '43, and '44 are NOW (1905 to PRESENT) to be studied and proclaimed. The messages of the first, second, and third angels will in the future (now 1905-2016) be proclaimed with a loud voice. They will be given with earnest determination and in the power of the Spirit" 15MR Ltr 75 1905.

The warning has come: Nothing is to be allowed to come in that will disturb the foundation of the faith upon which we have been building ever since the message came in1842, 1843, and 1844. I was in this message, and ever since I have been standing before the world, true to the light that God has given us. We do not propose to take our feet off the platform on which they were placed as day by day we sought the Lord with earnest prayer, seeking for light. Do you think that I could give up the light that God has given me? It is to be as the Rock of Ages. (GCB April 6th1903)

•       "We have, as had John (the Baptist), a message to bear of the things which we have seen and heard [the OLD ADVENTIST DOCTRINES from 1830-1894]. God is not giving us a new message. We are to proclaim the message that in 1843 and 1844 brought us out of the other churches. We need the Holy Spirit to kindle in our hearts the zeal and earnestness that were then seen among God's people. I thank the Lord that there are still living a few who can remember those days, and who know whereof they speak" RH Jan 19th 1905.

 "All the messages given from 1840-1844 are to be made forcible NOW, for there are MANY people who have LOST THEIR BEARINGS. The [THREE ANGEL''S] messages are to go to all the [SDA] churches"  21MR 437.1, LTR 54 1906.

•       "God bids us give our time and strength to the work of preaching to the people the messages that stirred men and women in 1843 and 1844" MR760 30.1, July 4th 1907.

“The third angel's message was, and still is, a WARNING to the saints to "hold fast," and not go back, and "receive" the marks (of the Papal beast=TRINITY, SUNDAY WORSHIP, Sprinkling) which the virgin band got rid of, during the second angel's [1843-1844] cry” A Word to the "Little Flock" JAMES WHITE, Topsham, Maine April 21, 1847.

"The message of the fall of Babylon, as given by the second angel [Rev. 14:8], is repeated, with theadditional mention of the corruption's which have been entering the churches since 1844. The work of this angel comes in at the right time to join in the last great work of the third angel's [Rev. 14:9-12 anti-Pope's anti-trinity, anti-sunday] message as it swells to a loud cry" —Early Writtings, p. 277.1.

"This scripture points forward to a time when the announcement of the fall of Babylon, as made by the second angel of Revelation 14[:8], is to be repeated, with the ADDITIONAL mention of the corruptions which have been entering the various organizations (501c3 churches) that constitute Babylon(all churches who have adopted false doctrines in common with the Papel Mother beast -like the Trinity, Eucharist, Sunday worship - all 501c3 churches become "ANOTHER BEAST" per Rev 13:11, the two horns represent Republicanism and former Protestantism in the United States), since that message was first given, in the summer of 1844" The Great Controversy 1888, p. 603.2.

"TO THOSE WHO GO OUT TO MEET THE BRIDEGROOM IS THIS [LOUD CRY/LATTER RAIN] MESSAGE GIVEN" Christ’s Object Lessons, p. 420.3. The wedding party procession that is going by the TEN VIRGINS is the Bride of Christ and the Bridegroom on it's way to the MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB! THE BANQUET FEAST IS THE TABLE THAT WAS SPREAD BY CHRIST HIMSELF IN THE BEGINNING OF ADVENTISM, THE OLD ADVENTIST DOCTRINES, TEACHINGS AND INSTRUCTION! THE TWO CHARTS, the 1843 chart, the 1850 charts, the two breasts, the two paps that feed/nourish God's people, the two charts are the two eagle wings, that like a Mother eagle God uses to teach His people to fly. They shall MOUNT UPON WINGS AS EAGLES! THEY SHALL RUN and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint, teach me Lord, teach me Lord to wait.

THE LOUD CRY MESSAGE IS TO THE LAODICEANS! IT IS THE STRAIGHT TESTIMONY THAT IS GIVEN BY THE 144,000 TO THE WISE AND FOOLISH VIRGINS STILL INSIDE THE FOUR WALLS OF THE GENERAL CONFERENCE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST DEMONATION/new organization from the 1830-1894 platform, firm foundation, landmarks, pillars of the history of the early experiences in the Advent movement. The LOUD CRY is the separating message, the gathering message of Christ's people into His barn. His barn of truth. His ark of truth that was setup in the beginning of the Advent movement. The Old Adventist doctrines that were setup as the pillars, the landmarks, the firm foundation, the platform of eternal truth that was not to have one peg of it removed!

"My HUSBAND, Elder Joseph Bates, Father Pierce, Elder Edson, a man who was KEEN, NOBLE, AND TRUE, and MANY OTHERS whose names I cannot now recall were among those who, after the passing of the time in 1844, searched for truth. At our important meetings, these men would meet together and search for the truth as for hidden treasure. I met with them, and we studied and prayed earnestly; for we felt that we must learn God’s truth. Often we remained together until late at night, and sometimes through the entire night, praying for light and studying the word. As we fasted and prayed, great power come upon us" —Ms 135, 1903 (November 4, 1903) par. 1.

"The whole company of believers were UNITED in the truth. There were those who came in with strange doctrines, but we were never afraid to meet them. Our experience was wonderfully established by the revelation of the Holy Spirit. . . .It was some time after my second son was born [1849] that we were in great perplexity regarding certain points of doctrine. I was asking the Lord to unlock my mind, that I might understand His Word. Suddenly I seemed to be enshrouded in clear, beautiful light, and ever since, the Scriptures have been an open book to me. (Manuscript 135, Nov.4, 1903, "Establishing the Foundation of Our Faith.")

"The history of the early experiences in the message will be a power to withstand the masterly ingenuity of Satan’s deceptions" Ellen White, Letter 99, 1905.

Now, Ms. Gracie, I am laying the foundation here for what I want you to prayerfully consider. Because it is the souls of many people who listen to you and your own soul at stake here. It is a LIFE AND DEATH situation. So please bear with me. 

DID YOU KNOW THAT ELLEN WHITE SAID THAT HER HUSBAND WAS LIKE MOSES TO ISRAEL TO THE ADVENTIST MOVEMENT??? THAT SHE HAD A VISION ABOUT THIS?

"I was shown that his relation to the people of God was similar, in some respects, to that of Moses to Israel" 3T85.

"In a VISION given me at Bordoville, Vermont, December 10, 1871, I was shown that the position of my husband has been a very difficult one. A pressure of care and labor has been upon him. His brethren in the ministry have not had these burdens to bear, and they have not appreciated his labors. The constant pressure upon him has taxed him mentally and physically. I was shown that his relation to the people of God was similar, in some respects, to that of Moses to Israel. There were murmurers against Moses, when in adverse circumstances, and there have been murmurers against him." Testimonies for the Church Volume 3, Page 85

As Moses was a type of Christ leading the ancient children of Israel, so James White, says Ellen White, was a type of Moses, leading the modern children of Israel into the Heavenly Canaan.

Ellen G. White held her husband, James S. White up as an example for others to follow. She, of all people knew he vehemently rejected the trinity doctrine as unbiblical. She said James White, HER HUSBAND was a type of Moses, that he was KEEN, NOBLE & TRUE and that he had been given GREAT light also, and was to speak and WRITE it out for OTHERS. She, as a true prophet of God would not ask others to follow her husband's leading if she herself did not believe the trinity was error. Remember? She stated that ALL of the pioneers came into harmony and were UNITED in the TRUTH! That included herself too! New truths do NOT contradict old truths or new light does not contradict OLD LIGHT, it only enhances the old light! When they came to something they all did not agree and understand, they would pray together, and God would show her the truth. They all worked together to hammer out the foundations of the early SDA church beliefs. "Whatever contradicts God's word, we may be sure proceeds from Satan." Patriarchs and Prophets, page 55, paragraph 2. "There is one straight chain of truth without one heretical sentence in that which I have written." — Ellen G. White, Letter 329A, 1905. (references: MS 135, 1903. (The Early Years, p. 145; James S. White, "type of Moses", Testimonies for the Church Volume 3, Page 85; "Moses was a type of Christ." {Patriarchs & Prophets, Chapter 43, p. 480-481; James White was "Keen, Noble & True" and was given "GREAT LIGHT also" and "he was to speak and WRITE it out for OTHERS", Selected Messages bk.1, p. 206-7 1904; ] As Moses was a type of Christ leading the ancient children of Israel, so James White, says Ellen White, was a type of Moses, leading the modern spiritual children of Israel into the Heavenly Canaan.

 "Like the Jews, many have closed their eyes lest they should see; but there is as great peril now, in closing the eyes to light, and in walking apart from Christ, feeling need of nothing, as there was when he was upon earth." {RH, Aug. 26, 1890}. "A clear conception of what God is, and what He requires us to be, will give us humble views of self." {RH June 2, 1896} "The same arguments are still urged against all who dare to present, in opposition to established errors, the plain and direct teachings of God's word." {GC p. 148} "I saw that the strength of the children of God is in their humility. When they are little in their own eyes, Jesus will be to them their strength and their righteousness, and God will prosper their labors." 3 Testimonies p. 307.

Sister "A knowledge of God is the foundation of all true education and of all true service" The Ministry of Healing, p. 409.2; Testimonies for the Church, vol. 8, pages 292, 293.

"The science of true education is the truth. The third angel's message is truth" T. Vol. 6, p. 131. 

Fundamental Aspects, Principles, Pillars, Foundation of Adventism: This is what makes us special:

Watch this video to see how the Trinity doctrine effects each one of the following aspects of a Protestant Adventist:

Here is a great YouTube Video called "The Trinity vs. Adventism" https://youtu.be/ptml85308bw

How does our view of who God is effect all of the following aspects of a True Adventist? Watch video here to find out https://youtu.be/ptml85308bw."

*  "We must point our people to the old landmarks" SpM 339.5.
*  "firm foundation" EW 258.3.
*  “Those who seek to remove the old landmarks are NOT holding fast" MR769.5.
*  "Those who try to bring in theories that would remove the pillars of our faith concerning the sanctuary or concerning the personality of God or of Christ [Trinity doctrine], are working as BLIND MEN" MR769.5. 
*  "Here the apostle has pointed out one of the marked characteristics of spiritualist teachers. They refuse to acknowledge Christ as the Son of God.  Concerning such teachers the beloved John declares: “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father.” 1 John 2:22, 23. Spiritualism, by denying Christ, denies both the Father and the Son, and the Bible pronounces it the manifestation of antichrist" Ellen White, Patriarchs and Prophets, page 686.

The 10 Commandments of God
The Sabbath
State of the Dead
The 3 angel's messages
The Heavenly Sanctuary
The Faith of Jesus
The Second Coming

"The passing of the time in 1844 was a period of great events, opening to our astonished eyes the cleansing of the sanctuary transpiring in heaven, and having decided relation to God's people upon the earth, [also] the first and second angels’ messages and the third, unfurling the banner on which was inscribed, “The commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.” One of the landmarks under this message was the temple of God, seen by His truth-loving people in heaven, and the ark containing the law of God. The light of the Sabbath of the fourth commandment flashed its strong rays in the pathway of the transgressors of God's law. The nonimmortality of the wicked is an old landmark. I can call to mind nothing more that can come under the head of the old landmarks. All this cry about changing the old landmarks is all imaginary. CW 30.2

"...there is a removing of the landmarks (the Three Angel's Messages given during the first 50 years of Adventism), and an attempt to tear down the pillars of our faith--then a more decided effort is made to exalt the false sabbath, and to cast contempt upon God Himself by supplanting the day He has blessed and sanctified." Selected Messages, book 3, p 405-406.

1990: "God is glad for us to go to church BOTH days [Saturday and Sunday]. He wants us to worship Him BOTH days." (Signs of the Times, March 1990, p. 22-23.

34 years ago, SDA World President Neal C. Wilson representing the whole 501c3 SDA denomination officially gave up Protestantism (protesting Catholic doctrines) to become CATHOLIC! As a traitor to Christ's early SDA pioneer doctrines, he plainly and boldly declared to the whole Adventist World: "...There is another universal and truly catholic organization, the Seventh-day Adventist Church" —Neal C. Wilson, Adventist Review, March 5, 1981, page 3.

"It is IMPOSSIBLE for you to unite with those who are corrupt, and still remain pure. (II Corinthians 6:14-15 quoted). God and Christ and the heavenly host would have men know that if he unites with the corrupt he will become corrupt" S.D.A. Bible Commentary Vol. 6, p. 1102.8, In Heavenly Places, p. 169.3.

"TO THOSE WHO GO OUT [separate from apostasy, from those who have rejected the old Adventist messages, the 3 angels anti-Satan's doctrine messages: Rev. 14:6-12, NOTICE THE THREE ANGEL'S LOGO IS GONE representing what is GONE on the inside as well to have home Bible study groups in their area] TO MEET THE BRIDEGROOM [by faith in the Most Holy Place in the Heavenly Sanctuary] IS THIS MESSAGE GIVEN"  Christ’s Object Lessons, p. 420.3.], 

"A glorious light then rested down upon these companies [ONLY those who obey the third angel’s message and go out (separate) of all false doctrines (Rev 18:4, Matthew 25:6, Revelation 14:9-12) will be allowed to help give the loud cry: “Isaiah 60:1: Arise, shine; for thy light (Early SDA doctrines, 1841-1846 messages are again REPEATED at the close of time = NOW) is come, and the glory (7th Day Sabbath) of the Lord is risen upon thee” Isaiah 60:1. TO THOSE WHO GO OUT [separate from apostasy, those who have rejected the old Adventist messages, the 3 angels anti-Satan's doctrine messages: Rev. 14:6-12] TO MEET THE BRIDEGROOM [by faith in the Most Holy Place in the Heavenly Sanctuary] IS THIS MESSAGE GIVEN"  Christ’s Object Lessons, p. 420.3.], 

"Satan is at work to undermine the faith of the people of God at this time. There are persons ready to catch up every new idea. The prophecies of Daniel and the Revelation are misinterpreted. These persons do not consider that the truth has been set forth at the appointed time by the very men whom God was leading to do this special work. These men followed on step by step in the very fulfillment of prophecy, and those who have not had a personal experience in this work, are to take the Word of God and believe on “THEIR WORD” who have been led by the Lord in the proclamation of the first, second, and third angels’ messages" 2SM 111-112.

It is imperative to study the pioneers platform of eternal truth that was setup in the beginning of Adventism. The modern 501c3 church has rejected the early SDA pioneer doctrines, which means apostasy from the truth. Come out of the modern SDA church and back into the doctrines and teachings of the early SDA Adventists today before it's too late. Don't be a foolish virgin that wakes up on the wrong side of the door knocking to get into the banquet hall!

Ms Gracie, the LOUD CRY and the LATTER RAIN message are to POINT PEOPLE TO THE OLD LANDMARKS, THE OLD ADVENTIST PILLARS, THE FIRM FOUNDATION THAT WAS LAID IN THE BEGINNING OF ADVENTISM. Most people do not realize that the GENERAL CONFERENCE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST LEADERS HAVE REJECTED THE OLD ADVENTIST DOCTRINES SETUP IN THE BEGINNING OF ADVENTISM FROM 1830-1894!

The Trinity doctrine WAS NOT believed by our faithful, KEEN, NOBLE and TRUE Protestant pioneers at all. In fact Ellen White was a Methodist before she became a Adventist. She GAVE UP THE TRINITY DOCTRINE WHEN SHE JOINED THE MILLERITE ADVENT MOVEMENT WITH HER PARENTS!

Faithful, keen, nobel and true SDA pioneer E. J. Waggoner states: “But when the doctor [Briggs] states that Seventh-day Adventists deny the divinity of Christ, we know that he writes recklessly” (E. J. Waggoner. Signs of the Times, March 25th 1889, article ‘The Divinity of Christ’).

“A survey of other Adventist writers during these years reveals, that to a man, they rejected the trinity, yet, with equal unanimity they upheld the divinity of Christ.” (Russell Holt, “The doctrine of the Trinity in the Seventh-day Adventist denomination: Its rejection and acceptance”, A term paper for Dr. Mervyn Maxwell, 1969).

“To reject the trinity is not necessarily to strip the Saviour of His divinity. Indeed, certain Adventist writers felt that it was the trinitarians who filled the role of degrading Christ’s divine nature” (Russell Holt, “The doctrine of the Trinity in the Seventh-day Adventist denomination: Its rejection and acceptance”, A term paper for Dr. Mervyn Maxwell, 1969).

“Most of the founders of Seventh-day Adventism would not be able to join the church today if they had to subscribe to the denomination’s fundamental beliefs. Most specifically, most would not be able to agree to belief number 2, which deals with the doctrine of the Trinity. For Joseph Bates the Trinity was an unscriptural doctrine, for James White it was that ‘old Trinitarian absurdity,’ and for M.E. Cornell it was a fruit of the great apostasy, along with such false doctrines as Sunday-keeping and the immortality of the soul” Ministry magazine Oct. 1993 p. 10, Article: “Adventists and Change”, written by George Raymond Knight who is a leading Seventh-day Adventist historian, author, and educator. He is emeritus professor of church history at Andrews University.

"That most of the leading SDA pioneers were non-Trinitarian in their theology has become accepted Adventist history" Jerry Moon “The Trinity” p. 190.

The bold modern General Conference Seventh day Adventist church makes no bones about the trinity being UN-scriptural: 

“Some will tend to resist this doctrine (the trinity) because it is NOT found expressly stated in the scriptures.” Adventist Review Aug 20, 1993, Page 8.

"While no single scriptural passage states formally the doctrine of the Trinity, it is assumed as a fact by Bible writers and mentioned several times. Only by faith can we accept the existence of the Trinity" Adventist Review, Vol. 158, No. 31, p. 4. 

1994:  “Likewise the Trinitarian understanding of God, now part of our fundamental beliefs, was not generally held by the early Adventists.  Even today a few do not subscribe to it”  William G. Johnsson, Adventist Review, January 6, 1994, p. 10,11.

1990 Herbert Ford, news director for the SDA denomination, told the Indianapolis Star that Adventists who want to cling to the church’s historic anti-Catholic beliefs represent only about 1,000 of the church’s 750,000 North American members. ARKANSAS CATHOLIC, July 29, 1990, Page 8.

"It is a solemn statement that I make to the church, that not one in twenty whose names are registered upon the church books are prepared to close their earthly history, and would be as verily without God and without hope in the world as the common sinner"--ChS 41 (1893). THIS WAS BACK IN 1893! WHAT ABOUT 2016?

Only Peter got out of the boat to meet Jesus on the water. Why did the rest stay in the boat? It was more comfortable. Laodicean means comfortable. Lukewarm. Spewed out. Foolish Virgins who are denied entrance to the banquet feast, the early SDA Protestant Pioneers writings, doctrines, beliefs.

James S. White wrote: “It is only when we stop believing right that we stop doing right” (Best stories from the best book, Bible companion for the home. James Edson White 1900 page 161).

“Let the aged men who were pioneers in our work speak plainly, and let those who are dead speak also, by the reprinting of their articles in our periodicals.”—Manuscript 62, 1905, cited in “The Integrity of the Sanctuary Message.”

“We are to REPEAT THE WORDS of the pioneers in our work, who knew what it cost to search for the truth as for hidden treasure, and who labored to lay the foundation of our work. The word given me is, Let that which these men have written in the past be reproduced.”—Review and Herald, May 25, 1905.


Although Ellen rebuked many different people, she had no rebukes for her own husbands blatant rebuke of the trinity doctrine, who called it a: 

"Catholic error"
"spiritualism"
"absurdity"
"Neither are the Father and the Son parts of the “three-one God”
the trinity "denied the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ"
"The inexplicable Trinity" that it is "bad enough", 
"the old trinitarian absurdity"
"a fundamental error"
"the Trinity, which does away the personality of God, and of his Son Jesus Christ"
a "vestige of Papacy" 

The fact is that James Springer White totally and unequivocally rejected the doctrine of the trinity until his death in 1881.
Also consider Ellen White's statement found in Patriarchs and Prophets page 480 where she says "Moses was a type of Christ." Ellen White said James S. White was: * similar to "Moses to Israel" Testimonies for the Church Volume 3, Page 85

The following quote shows how BOTH JAMES & ELLEN were non-trinity (triune) believers. Notice the "we" and "our" in the quote below written by James S. White:

"This missionary seemed very liberal in his feelings toward all Christians. But after catechizing us upon the trinity, and finding that WE ("we" Ellen and James) were not sound upon the subject of his triune God, he became earnest in denouncing Unitarianism, which takes from Christ his divinity, and leaves him but a man. Here, as far as our views were concerned, he was combating a man of straw. We do not deny the divinity of Christ. We delight in giving full credit to all those strong expressions of Scripture which exalt the Son of God. We believe him to be the divine person addressed by Jehovah in the words, "Let us make man." He was with the Father before the world was. He came from God, and he says, "I go to him that sent me." The apostle speaks of Christ as he now is, our mediator, having laid aside our nature. "If any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous." (James White, Review and Herald, June 6th 1871, ‘Western Tour’) 

The next week James wrote clearly that Ellen White did  NOT agree with the creed of trinitarians.

"We invite all to compare the testimonies of the Holy Spirit through Mrs. W., with the word of God. And in this we do not invite you to compare them with your creed. That is quite another thing. The TRINITARIAN may compare them with his creed, and because they do not agree with it, condemn them. The observer of Sunday, or the man who holds eternal torment an important truth, and the minister that sprinkles infants, may each condemn the testimonies' of Mrs. W. because they do not agree with their peculiar views. And a hundred more, each holding different views, may come to the same conclusion. But their genuineness can never be tested in this way." { James White RH June 13, 1871}.

I hope you will reconsider, Ms. Gracie, your stance on the Trinity of Gods. 1+1+1=1 is even bad math. Don't feel ashamed to take a stand for our Lord. Many of the Jews believed on Jesus too, but were afraid to make it public knowledge because they were afraid they would be put out of the synagogue. Today, if you believe like the early SDA pioneers you will be put out of the modern 501c3 General Conference Seventh Day Adventist denomination. The Protestant Pioneers could NOT join the self-admited Catholic Adventist church today and those who do not want to take or believe MARKS OF THE FIRST AND SECOND BEAST must go OUT to meet the Bridegroom per Matthew 25:6 and Rev 18:4.

Learn more here:

https://sites.google.com/site/howtoperformmiracles/sabbath/pioneers
https://sites.google.com/site/theendtimewarning/trinity
https://sites.google.com/site/howtoperformmiracles/2015
https://sites.google.com/site/howtoperformmiracles/1980

"Satan has taken full possession of the [501c3 SDA] churches as a body" SPIRITUAL GIFTS, VOL. 1, PAGE 189. Learn more here.

Ms. Gracie, I don't want you to be responsible for lost souls and I know you don't want to be responsible for lost souls ether. 

"Men will feel as though they could rend in pieces the ministers who have preached falsehoods and condemned the truth" Last Day Events, p. 247.2.

"Many claim that a position of trust in the church gives them authority to dictate what other men shall believe and what they shall do. This claim God does not sanction" The Desire of Ages, p. 414.3.

Please consider prayerfully what I've shared here and let me know your thoughts.

I'll leave you with two pretty plain statements of our Prophetess Ellen G. White:

"Christ is to be known by the blessed name of Comforter” {Ms7-1902 (January 26, 1902) par. 10} - EGW: look it up here: text.egwwritings.org

"WE WANT THE HOLY SPIRIT, WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST” {Lt66-1894 (April 10, 1894) par. 18} - EGW: look it up here: text.egwwritings.org

And here's a study that harmonizes some of Sister White's quotes:
http://revelation1412.org/files/1413/4269/9545/Putting_the_Pieces_Together.pdf

Let's give the Loud Cry together Ms Gracie and point people to the OLD ADVENTIST LANDMARKS, the 1830-1894 writings of the early SDA Pioneers who are now dead that are to speak by the republishing, the retelling of their articles, books and sermons!
https://sites.google.com/site/howtoperformmiracles/sabbath/pioneers

We ALL need to study and pray like our lives depend upon it, because it does. Here's a picture that hopefully helps to describe what I've shared above:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2Ff6LGwUlCSZHMtcnl6aVhsZ1E/view?usp=sharing
and this picture:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2Ff6LGwUlCSRHJNVzNXMFFwRm9QdXdGcWtrenY5b0ZRS3Rr/view?usp=sharing

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