Flat Earth? huh? The Biblical Understanding of the Earth. Is it a Stationary Plane or Sphere?

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2 Peter 3:5
For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

This is from the complete jewish bible (cjb) in Genesis 1-6:8 (kjv). The word firmament comes from the original Hebrew word râqîyâ pronounced raw-kee'-ah which means dome, the expanse, visible arch of the sky.

In revelation it says flat earth and in job God speaks to job giving him description of how he created the earth with a flat face and an arch dome

WHY RESEARCH FLAT EARTH? BECAUSE A "GLOBE" CONCEPT TAKES GOD OUT OF THE TRUTH THAT THE EARTH IS FLAT, like a circular plate with four pillars under it..for more info watch this documentary on it:



What do you think of this hiding god in a lie? Religion - aspects of how a flat vs sphere earth hids the truth about god and his son: https://youtu.be/fk4YqPtvJao?t=6556

1 Samuel 2:8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the PILLARS of the earth are the Lord's, and he hath SET THE WORLD UPON THEM.

Jeremiah 6:22 Thus saith the Lord, Behold, a people cometh from the north country, and a great nation shall be raised from the SIDES of the earth.

Job 9:6 Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.

Psalm 75:3 The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it. Selah.

Joel 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

In Hebrew Tanakh the word Heaven is in the plural Heavens.
Also in Hebrew Tanakh God is singular and the words let us is plural.

What did our forefathers understand the earth to be?
  • We’re told that “the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.” Psalm 93:1. This is repeated almost word for word in 1 Chronicles 16:30: “the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.” By contrast, we’re told in many passages that the sun does move.
  • Joshua commanded the sun to stand still (Joshua 10:11-13)
  • Hezekiah asked the sundial to move backwards (2 Kings 20:1-11; 2 Kings 20:9-11; Isaiah 38:8; Hebrews 11;34)
  • Moses
  • Interesting info on the SunBack here
  • What did the early SDA Protestant pioneers think about the earth? Download pdf here.

  • Psalm 19:4 In them [the firmament] hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
    (Consider this, my own personal study...please by all means show me with a Thus Saith the Lord what you think as the Lord guides and teaches us- text me Cindy at 573-996-6401: A tabernacle for the Son of God is the 144,000 (ministering Spirits, faithful men and women) God promised Abraham that he would make unto him a great nation as the stars of heaven and the sands of the sea. Two nations were born of his son of promise by Rebekah, Esau and Jacob. The elder would serve the younger... the twelve tribes of Jacob make up the 144,000 who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus. This is the church triumphant is also the Throne of David the 144,000 who have been being made up as a part of that number since the start of the Third Angel's message - as that small dark cloud in the eastern skies (James White's Present Truth articles) that grows bigger and bigger in number, as the restoration of the 7th day Sabbath in those that are to be a living tabernacle, new Jerusalem coming down out of heaven by faith that the living, risen Son of God dwells in for eternity. We have followed Christ into the Heavenly Sanctuary and by faith descend as the New Jerusalem giving the Three Angels Messages from Heaven where Christ is sat down with his Father upon the Throne of David - the 144,000. The Definition of Heaven by Sister White—Christ is the truth of all that we find in the Father. The definition of heaven is the presence of Christ (Manuscript 184, 1897). SDA Bible Commentary, vol. 7 (EGW), p. 989.9 (Ellen G. White))
  • 19:5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
  • 19:6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
The Day the Sun Stood Still
11As they fled before Israel along the descent from Beth-horon to Azekah, the LORD cast down on them large hailstones from the sky, and more of them were killed by the hailstones than by the swords of the Israelites. 12On the day the LORDgave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshuaspoke to the LORD in the presence of Israel: “O sun,stand still over Gibeon, O moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.” 13So the sun stood still and the moon stopped until the nation took vengeance upon its enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? “So the sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.”…

1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science
falsely so called:

In this verse, the word ‘science’ is the greek word ‘gnosis’ (G1108) which means knowledge. Therefore, for one to say that the Bible is not
a book of science is to ignorantly claim that the Bible is not a book of knowledge. Of course, this is not true. Rather, it is the theories which
oppose the science of the Bible that Paul rightly identifies as counterfeit knowledge or as “science falsely so called”. He implores us to
cast down all pseudo-knowledge that sets itself against the knowledge found in God’s Word.

2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God…

The powers of darkness have waged a progressive assault against the true science of God’s creation. While many Bible-believing Christians
denounce evolution and the big bang theory for the satanic frauds that they are, there is another link in the chain of pseudo-science that
mocks God’s Word. This link appears to have slipped under the radar, and it is none other than the globe.

"The days are fast approaching when there will be great perplexity and confusion. Satan, clothed in angel robes, will deceive, if possible, the very elect. There will be gods many and lords many. Every wind of doctrine will be blowing. Those who have rendered supreme homage to “science falsely so called” will not be the leaders then. Those who have trusted to intellect, genius, or talent will not then stand at the head of rank and file. They did not keep pace with the light. Those who have proved themselves unfaithful will not then be entrusted with the flock. In the last solemn work few great men will be engaged. They are self-sufficient, independent of God, and He cannot use them. The Lord has faithful servants, who in the shaking, testing time will be disclosed to view. There are precious ones now hidden who have not bowed the knee to Baal. They have not had the light which has been shining in a concentrated blaze upon you. But it may be under a rough and uninviting exterior the pure brightness of a genuine Christian character will be revealed. In the day time we look toward heaven but do not see the stars. They are there, fixed in the firmament, but the eye cannot distinguish them. In the night we behold their genuine luster.

The time is not far distant when the test will come to every soul. The mark of the beast will be urged upon us. Those who have step by step yielded to worldly demands and conformed to worldly customs will not find it a hard matter to yield to the powers that be, rather than subject themselves to derision, insult, threatened imprisonment, and death. The contest is between the commandments of God and the commandments of men. In this time the gold will be separated from the dross in the church. True godliness will be clearly distinguished from the appearance and tinsel of it. Many a star that we have admired for its brilliancy will then go out in darkness. Chaff like a cloud will be borne away on the wind, even from places where we see only floors of rich wheat. All who assume the ornaments of the sanctuary, but are not clothed with Christ's righteousness, will appear in the shame of their own nakedness.

When trees without fruit are cut down as cumberers of the ground, when multitudes of false brethren are distinguished from the true, then the hidden ones will be revealed to view, and with hosannas range under the banner of Christ. Those who have been timid and self-distrustful will declare themselves openly for Christ and His truth. The most weak and hesitating in the church will be as David—willing to do and dare. The deeper the night for God's people, the more brilliant the stars. Satan will sorely harass the faithful; but, in the name of Jesus, they will come off more than conquerors. Then will the church of Christ appear “fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners.” Testimonies for the Church, vol. 5, p. 80.1 (Ellen G. White)

Four Corners Isaiah 11:12 "...four corners of the earth..."
Four Corners Revelation 7:1 "...four corners of the earth..."
Four Corners Revelation 20:8 "...four corners of the earth..."

The earth is STILL 1 Chron. 16:30 KJV "
Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved."

more verses here.

Those that do understand Ellen White is a prophet, what does she say about this?

"I hope Brother Wilcox will be a truly converted man. This is his great need at the present time. He wants meekness, he wants humility, he wants genuine piety, and without it he is as sounding brass and a tinkling cymbal. His soul and your soul need the indwelling of Jesus. Whether the world is round or flat will not save a soul, but whether men believe and obey means everything."--Letter 43, 1887.

"The great question is, What shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? This is the science of what constitutes the higher education, and when this question is properly adjusted, the capabilities of the whole man are called into full exercise. There will be no agitation of the question whether the world is round or flat, but the whole burden of the soul is: What shall I do to inherit eternal life? We need now to make every talent that God has given us to be employed to His name's glory."  -- 21MR 414.5

"My answer was, "I have a message to this people in regard to the life they must live in this world to prepare them for future life which measures with the life of God. We have nought to do with the question whether this world is round or flat. [The important thing] is to serve God with full purpose of a renewed heart, sanctified and made holy by the cleansing blood of Jesus Christ."

Every issue will be brought in in various places by some persons who are not worked by the Spirit of God. Last night the Lord gave me words to speak to the people. Satan has a multitude of questions to bring in through various minds and ingenuity as all-important. Take the Word, plainly stating the truth for 1904; and the messenger that was sent of God had a message the same as the people need now. He was John the Baptist. --21MR 421.4,5

"There will be no agitation of the question whether the world is round or flat, but the whole burden of the soul is: What shall I do to inherit eternal life? We need now to make every talent that God has given us to be employed to His name's glory."  {21MR 414.5}  

The Sabbath Made for a Round World
God rested on the seventh day, and set it apart for man to observe in honor of His creation of the heavens and the earth in six literal days. He blessed and sanctified and made holy the day of rest. When men are so careful to search and dig to see in regard to the precise period of time, we are to say, God made His Sabbath for a round world; and when the seventh day comes to us in that round world, controlled by the sun that rules the day, it is the time in all countries and lands to observe the Sabbath. In the countries where there is no sunset for months, and again no sunrise for months, the period of time will be calculated by records kept... The Lord accepts all the obedience of every creature He has made, according to the circumstances of time in the sun-rising and sun-setting world. . . . The Sabbath was made for a round world, and therefore obedience is required of the people that are in perfect consistency with the Lord's created world."--Letter 167, 1900.  {3SM 317.1,2}

MR No. 839 - Keeping the Sabbath on a Round World
"We took Brother and Sister Haskell with our team to the station at Dora Creek. On the way Brother Haskell read an article on the day line, written to meet the fallacies that are coming in to make everything uncertain in regard to when the seventh day comes

It would be very strange if the Lord God of heaven should set apart a day for people to observe, and bless and sanctify that day, and give it to man and enjoin upon man that it be kept holy unto the Lord as a memorial that He made the world in six days and rested upon the seventh day and blessed the Sabbath day, and yet that day become so uncertain the world cannot tell definitely when the seventh day comes to us.

Here is a day given, and the Lord declares it shall be observe throughout your generations "for a perpetual covenant" (Exodus 31:16), as a sign of obedience and loyalty to God, and yet it is so obscured no one can tell when it comes! 
Oh, what fallacies men will resort to in order to carry out false theories. The Lord pronounced His blessing upon all who keep holy the Sabbath day. His commandments are given to a thousand generations, and when that period is ended the redeemed host shall be in the city of God and observed the Sabbath there, and especially come up to worship God from Sabbath to Sabbath and from one new moon to another." (Isaiah 66:23.)-- Ms. 173, 1897, pp. 4, 5. (Diary, June, 1897.) White Estate Washington, D. C. March 25, 1981  {10MR 342.1-3}  

"The cultivation of certain faculties to the neglect of others makes Bro. Andrews a one-sided man. When on the subject of the round world, Bro. Andrews could scarcely think or talk without dwelling upon this subject. He carried this matter to extremes. He wearied the readers and listeners to his lengthy arguments upon that subject. Precious time was used up in talking and writing upon that subject, which needed to be canvassed, but did not require so great thoroughness. Bro. Andrews was wearying himself and others, and at the same time was leaving undone the weightier matters. And more recently, months of precious time have been used up in wearisome labor, chasing after the dishonest quibbles of a man who once kept the Bible Sabbath, but afterward rejected it. His opposition is so great upon the Sabbath question that he is insane upon the subject." -{PH159 188.1}

Ellen white believed heliocentric system. False system did Joshua ask for the sun to stand still or the earth???

  • Joshua commanded the sun to stand still (Joshua 10:11-13)
  • Hezekiah asked the sundial to move backwards (2 Kings 20:1-11; 2 Kings 20:9-11; Isaiah 38:8; Hebrews 11;34)

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WHY RESEARCH FLAT EARTH? BECAUSE A "GLOBE" CONCEPT TAKES GOD OUT OF THE TRUTH THAT THE EARTH IS FLAT, like a circular plate with four pillars under it..for more info watch this documentary on it:


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